Author	Message
Eddie_W	Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Now you guys are making my head hurt. I looked at and had to turn down( under dire threats from the home front) a local P4 for NZ$1000(say UK$300) With only 5 in this country and the increasing rarity overseas it surely must become a collectable Alfa in the future. Not, I'll admit, as pristine an example as the one under discussion but nonetheless desirable. For me the attraction would be to supercharge the 16v thus increasing its non existent torque without the torque steer that would happen with a standard one. Ah me, my dream Alfa. Regards Eddie
john 33_16v	Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Ask her if she can still read a numberplate at 67 metres (it's 67 feet in the UK ) John
aforalfa	Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: a bag of wurthurs, and a tartan rug, and a 156 is what i'd give....
Alan	Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Under those white coatings are original seats Like new!!!
stedee	Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: is it champagne - i thought my p4 was the only one. and the back seats? whats going on there , they are not p4 seats are they.
Alan	Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Here are some phone pictures: I hope i get the car, it's from an old lady but she isn't sure if she wants to sell it
mt	Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: A car like that is a one off and is really worth however much you're prepared to pay, it's not like you'll find the same thing cheaper once you've bought it and regret paying what you did. Think of a price, then inagine how you'd feel if you found out someone just bought that car for £50 more. If you feel gutted it's not your top price. Bear in mind that although it's 'nearly new' any parts that perish over time will need to be replaced, i'm not an expert but the cam belts will certainly need to be changed, probably anything made of rubber, CV boots etc. And none of the UK P4s that i've seen had aircon.
john 33_16v	Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Would probably make a good fiscal investment, but also 5000euros (£3750ish GBP?) isn't bad for a nearly new (condition) alfa fun machine that can be driven and enjoyed every day for years. What else would the money get you? In the UK a reasonable but tired 156 perhaps? Compare also to buying a 'good' P4 or 33 16v for maybe £1000-£1500+, that might actually need you to spend out on transmission probs, suspension, brakes, engine rebuild, pas rack..... Let's see some pics when you buy it! John
stedee	Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: i agree - it could be a shrewd investment if stored in a garage for 10 years or so.
Alan	Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: I think it's not too expensive if it looks like new and with the fact that there aren't many of P4 around... I'll go check it out, and post some pictures.
tvatavuk	Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: In 1998 I payed equivalent of 6k euros now for my P4 and it was nowere near mint condition with 100k km on clock. 5k euros is bit high but in about 10 years P4 could be collector item worth that money.
Alan	Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Ok then it's a Nardi and the seller just made a mistake because the car is totaly stock and without flaws. So 5000 euros wouldnt be too much for a let's say collectors item?
stedee	Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: nardi not momo nah thats a nardi in the photo, common mistake, the guy is selling the p4 i sold him for 2000 btw, 40000 miles in v good condition in champagne silver with black speedlines he wants 2000
Alan	Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Hmm here it says P4 featuring Momo wheel www.mark.oglesby.co.uk/ almost at the bottom of the page...
tvatavuk	Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: P4 left factory only with Nardi steering wheel not momo When new it was 40 000 DEM, around 20k euros now.
Alan	Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: How much would you give for a P4 Just for the info, how much would you be prepared to pay for an Alfa 33 P4 with only 8000 miles and the carpeting still in protective foil, without rust. It's like from the factory and with all the right names, recaro seats, momo steering wheel only no aircon... I found that kind of car and want to know how much is it realy worth it.