Author	Message
BigAl	Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 1:02 am    Post subject: The guys at the garage got the door open after taking off the door card and hammering away at the lock which had rusted solid. Big thanks to alex for supplying a new catch lock.
BigAl	Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: yup you got it guys I can see where it has jammed, I will suggestit to the guys and see what we can make , thats after trying the jacking up the car trick I should have tightened the allen bolts tighter i guess and never got round to it.
Bobkelso	Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Hi, one time I had same problem on my 33 (the original holes in the door side for the locking mechanism bolts had 2-3 mm cracks and the allen bolts with conical head where pulled through a pair of millimetes into the door, so the whole locking mechanism was not well fixed and I couln'd open the door from inside the car with the lever in the panel, because the lever hadn't enought travel to make it work..) I tried to fix it with 3 washers around the 3 allen key bolts as you said, and door cannot close because of the allen key bolt heads that where to much outside and where interfering with the door pillar catch. So I used 3 washers only 1/1,5mm thick and with the hole diameter bigger, then I turned the allen key bolts so strong that the washers became conical shaped and allen key bolts could go some more mm inside the door and door was perfectly working and very strong assembly, no need for welding and you cannot see that it was a fixing , cracks are no more visible and the visible part of the 'conical' nichel plate washers around the allen key bolt heads looks like an original part
RFlower	Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: BigAl wrote: Thanks for the serious suggestions I put 3 large washers around the 3 allen key bolts holding the door locking mechanism in place. the originall holes in the door for the bolts had corroded completly and the allen bolts pulled through into the door, so the whole locking mechanism was not fixed to anything. So, the door locking mechanism now catches on the door piller catch, the door open mechanism works, as the door is not closed properly as the central locking doesnt close, due to the catch not being fully home. If you just put washers under the heads of the allen bolts holding the mechanism in the door, the mechanism should still be in the same place, but the bolt heads are higher, and catching on the stationary part of the lock, on the door pillar. Look at the opposite door to see what I mean. I don't know if my car has extra large panel gaps, but I can clearly see the mechanism when the door is closed, and it looks like it would be possible to fabricate a tool to go in there via the gap and prise apart the two parts of the lock where they are jammed together. good luck
Ian M	Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: lee16v wrote: Ian M wrote: My suggestion was very serious Al Its that fool from Barnstable keeps leading us astray I think you'll find my first one was serious. I got it out before the voices started again. You haven't been missing your medication again have you ??
Oggie	Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: john 33_16v wrote: All my posts on here are always serious: Quality John quality
john 33_16v	Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: All my posts on here are always serious:
lee16v	Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Ian M wrote: My suggestion was very serious Al Its that fool from Barnstable keeps leading us astray I think you'll find my first one was serious. I got it out before the voices started again.
Ian M	Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: My suggestion was very serious Al Its that fool from Barnstable keeps leading us astray
BigAl	Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:22 am    Post subject: Thanks for the serious suggestions I put 3 large washers around the 3 allen key bolts holding the door locking mechanism in place. the originall holes in the door for the bolts had corroded completly and the allen bolts pulled through into the door, so the whole locking mechanism was not fixed to anything. So, the door locking mechanism now catches on the door piller catch, the door open mechanism works, as the door is not closed properly as the central locking doesnt close, due to the catch not being fully home.
The Wombat	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:55 pm    Post subject: When I took delivery of the red P4 I am currently stripping, the doors were seized closed. The latch pivots had seized into their mounts. I was able, carefully but persistently, to unclip the rear top edge of the door card, and lever the plastic strip that holds it along the window up over the metalwork. I then got several long 3/8 extension bars as drifts, and tapped the inside part of the latch mechanism round to release the door. it was all a bit fiddly, but worked with no damage to anything other than a couple of broken door trim clips I had to replace. Hope that helps, as if the mods to the handle are causing the issue, tapping the latch mechanism round to release the door should still work as it can rotate independent of the handle mechanism.
john 33_16v	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:24 pm    Post subject: Just had a thought and here's a serious suggestion. Try jacking the car at the rear jacking point and if that doesn't work try the others one by one as the flex in the car might be enough to pop it open. John
john 33_16v	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Anonymous wrote: lee16v wrote: Another suggestion would be to weld the door up, smash the window out, paint the car orange with flag motif on top and then go running from the law. Lee your a genius, I'm doing mine this weekend Don't forget to write the name of an American civil war general on the roof Al http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLjMRHiY0UU&feature=player_detailpage
Oggie	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: All be it a time consuming event, you could remove the front wing exposing the 6 door hinge bolts and try taking it of that way?, but easyiest would be to drill a decent size hole in the door card.
Ian M	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Anonymous wrote: lee16v wrote: Another suggestion would be to weld the door up, smash the window out, paint the car orange with flag motif on top and then go running from the law. Lee your a genius, I'm doing mine this weekend Don't forget to write the name of an American civil war general on the roof Al That was me
Guest	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: lee16v wrote: Another suggestion would be to weld the door up, smash the window out, paint the car orange with flag motif on top and then go running from the law. Lee your a genius, I'm doing mine this weekend Don't forget to write the name of an American civil war general on the roof Al
john 33_16v	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: lee16v wrote: Another suggestion would be to weld the door up, smash the window out, paint the car orange with flag motif on top and then go running from the law. I always wondered how they got uncle Jessie in the back, especially with the roll cage?
lee16v	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Another suggestion would be to weld the door up, smash the window out, paint the car orange with flag motif on top and then go running from the law.
lee16v	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:16 pm    Post subject: Have you got that picture of what you did? As I'm not sure of what you've done Al. My suggestion would be to remove outer window seal strip and get a piece of wire with a bend at the end down there to try and pull on the release lever.
BigAl	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:44 pm    Post subject: ive kinda done that too
Ian M	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: How about lying on your back across the seats and kicking it as hard as you can with both feet
john 33_16v	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: BigAl wrote: the door is kind of open bu wedged on the catch Might have to be club hammer persuasion on a piece of wood inside the door as close to the catch as you can get it. I'd think knocking the door open will cause the least damage as opposed to trying to pry it open from the outside. Can you get a hacksaw blade in from inside to work away at the washers?
BigAl	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: the dash is the thing that is in the way, i dont know if pulling the door card off will help any though as the door is kind of open bu wedged on the catch not sure how pushing the light switch would help lol, cant get to that and the hinges are bolted fro the inside of the door shuts I can lock the car by removing the fuse for the central locking and can close all other doors Thanks guys, keep em comming
eagle3	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Anonymous wrote: Can you push the door closed button(that does the interior light) in on frame between the hinges? That might allow you to unlock the doors. Not sure how it works tbh but worth a try I would have thought. Sorry that was me not logged in. Also try disconnecting the battery. Again clutching at straws but you never know!
Guest	Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Can you push the door closed button(that does the interior light) in on frame between the hinges? That might allow you to unlock the doors. Not sure how it works tbh but worth a try I would have thought.