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Fletcher
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 Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:04 am Post subject: Difference between 33 16V sport VS non-sport |
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Hi, just wondering if someone could inform me of the difference between the sport version compared to the standard 16V cloverleafs. I know that in the 1992 the sport versions had recaro seats , but they eventually put these in the 1994 version as well (non-sport), did they make a sport version in 1994? Thanks.
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tvatavuk
Gold Cloverleaf
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Location: Split, Croatia
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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In europe sport version had different coolant tank and plastic cap with somewhat higher preassure relese point.
Standard 16v had standard bottle with higher neck and metallic filler cap one like on standard radiator?
Someone else should be able to tell you exactly what are benefits of higher preassure, because I can only guess.
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Bellamachinna
Alfa 33
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Location: Lisbon-Portugal
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hi... 
Seems that you are a bit mix up... 
There is not any Boxer 16v Sport without the QV. The QV, meens just that.-SPORT.
When the s3 33 was lauched there were 2 Boxer 16v. One was the Boxer 16v-Basically a 1.7 IE with the 16v engine. They were fitted with Alfa Control, the bumpers were not fully collor codded..
The other was the Boxer 16v QV... The sport model
After 1/2 years it was introduced the S 16v QV Permanent 4
In some markets the others name, was changed to S16v and S16v QV.
The S16v QV was also an sport model, but the Permanent 4 had different steering wheel, The RECARO seats, and 4wd...
In 93/94, almost in end of production of the 33, the Permanent 4 name was changed to Q4. The S16v QV desapeared, and the regular S16v received the Recaros. This generation of s16v and Q4, had the recaros covered in leather/alcantara. |
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LDA
Alfa 33
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Location: France
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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interesting.
to quote the badges on the back of my 1992 car.
"33 S 16v * permanent 4"
the * is the little cloverleaf badge.
my last perm 4 was a 1991 car and that had the same badges on the back.
and the owners manual has a big letter S on the front and goes on about owning the sport model.
were all the perm 4's sport models?
btw, the water bottle in both my p4's were plastic with a metal cap.
L.
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paulhide
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tvatavuk
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| LDA wrote: |
interesting.
to quote the badges on the back of my 1992 car.
"33 S 16v * permanent 4"
the * is the little cloverleaf badge.
my last perm 4 was a 1991 car and that had the same badges on the back.
and the owners manual has a big letter S on the front and goes on about owning the sport model.
were all the perm 4's sport models?
btw, the water bottle in both my p4's were plastic with a metal cap.
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RHD Alfas allways had to be different from LHD. ie Almost all LHD Alfas without ABS had rear drums and only ABS versions had rear discs, but you had some law that sad no no to AR ABS.
All Perm4 were Sport versions if you trust AR CD catalogue.
Here is complete of 33 I.E. 90-94 versions list from AR CD catalogue:
GS LEFT HAND DRIVE
GD RIGHT HAND DRIVE
V1 BN 4X2 MED
V2 BN 4X2 EL
V3 SEDAN 4X2 SPORT
V4 BN 4X4 EL
V5 SEDAN 4X4 PERMANENT SPORT
V6 SW 4X2 MED.
V7 SW 4X2 EL.
V8 SW 4X4 MED.
V9 SW 4X4 EL.
V10 SW 4X4 PERMAN.SPORT
V11 BN 4X2 MED.IMOLA
V12 BN 4X2 MED.PRIVIL
V13 BN 4X2 MED.FEELING
V14 BN 4X2 MED.IMOLA 2
V15 BN 4X2 MED.HIT
V16 BN 4X2 MED.PEACK
V18 BN 4X2 EL.PEACK
V19 SEDAN 4X2 ELEG.SS.ATTACCO
V20 SEDAN 4X2 ELEGANT SS.ABSOLUTE
V21 SW 4X2 MED.SS LODEN
V22 SW 4X2 MED.SS BRIO
V23 SW 4X2 MEDIO SS TENDER
V24 SW 4X2 MEDIO SS FLAG
V25 SW 4X4 MEDIO SS FLAG
V26 POLIZIA
Motorizations
M1 1.3 8V USA'83
M2 1.5 8V
M3 1.5 8V USA'83 AR30751
M4 1.5 8V USA'83 AR30738
M5 1.7 8V
M6 1.7 8V USA'83 AR30737
M7 1.7 8V USA'83 AR30740
M8 1.7 16V-ECE 04
M9 1.7 16V-USA 83
M10 1.4 8V USA 83
Countries
AUS AUSTRALIA
GB ENGLAND
IRL IRELAND
S SWEDEN
SF FINLAND
EL = Elegante = QV
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serpent-33
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Apart from recaros and nardy steering wheel, the rear track width is wider and comes with rear disks. |
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alfaqv33
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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in the netherlands was the difference between 16V QV S and the 16V QV only the wheels (p4 wheels instead the speedlines)
Recaro seeds, leather P4 steering wheel, ABS, disc braked back and sprinkler for the front light were optional
sorry for the poor engelish, but i hope you will understand me!
greetz gerwin
33 16V QV S |
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