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Funkin Go-nut
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: series 2 front end? Reply with quote

Are the wings on the series 2 and 3 the same?

How easy is it to put a series 2 front end on a series 3?

Assuming the parts are availabe is it just a bolt on job or are there differences in front subframe mountings etc?

Sorry if its been asked before... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Funkin

They're different. The indicators on the side are on a different place (that's not too bad as you could fill and drill) - but the major problem is the very front where the light configuration is different. You'd have to shear some metal off and weld some new in. I don't think it's worth it.


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Assuming the parts are availabe is it just a bolt on job or are there differences in front subframe mountings etc?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have a feeling that the wings are very similar (possible the cutout for the side repeaters is different). Main difference is the lights, bonnet, bumper and grill.

All the best

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really want a series 2, but they seem a bit rarer than the series 3 which seem a bit more available, so I was thinkin of merging the two to get the best of both worlds (i.e. 16v engine, stiffer front rails and better rear wheel control..with the older classic look) Very Happy

Guess its a bigger job than I thought... Smile

Thanks for the info Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the series 3 radiator mounted further forward to make room for the power steering? This would probably give you some trouble trying to fit a series 2 front over it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok ok.. this is madness..... *shouts* "EVERYBODY STOP!"

Someone just sell this luna-ahem-man a Series II Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its another ex 155er turns up, hey FGN the 156 GTA not good enough Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

i didn't believe it until i tested it...wings from series 2 and 3 can be exchanged, the main difference is the front bumper attachment...but this part is hidden behind the front bumper so it's easy to build a bracket of your own.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always toyed with the idea of veloce bumpers on a series 3, but after seeing a pic of a series 3 with large bumpers, where the splitter almost touched the floor, it kind of stuck out. I too prefer the ser 2 look, but good ones are hard to come buy and lack a little power to the 16v, so yes a hybrid would be good. Here’s a couple of pics but it still has the ser 3 lights ect, not found any pics of a front end conversion.


I have seen a sud with veloce bumpers, that looked mean.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

that white one looks good alan.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would look better with the ser 2 side skirts. The ser 3 bumper stops a lot higher and the line flows with the ser 3 side skirt. The ser 2 veloce bumpers sit much lower but married with the ser 2 side skirts they may compliment each other.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee wrote:
Its another ex 155er turns up, hey FGN the 156 GTA not good enough Laughing



GTA's running fine at the moment thanks Very Happy

I just have an urge for a 33 again, plus it will stop me putting so manny miles on the 156 Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hybrid idea came from on of the cars that used to race in the Alfa championship...cant find any pics though..

I do like the white one in the pic looks Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all crazy... esp you Al.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just worked out what the highest post count reward is.

It's not a 16 Valve..

It's not a P4...

Its a S3 cabriolet with a S2 front clip, powered by a V6 with twin turbo's with 18inch Bling wheels and painted in colour change orange metallic paint.

And Bobbber's gonna get there first. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's one with the same kit as that white one near me, looks good in the flesh too, speshly as it now wears some 155 speedlines 16inchers Cool Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The series 3 with the big veloce bumper is off a 75 which has been shortened, ah motorsport sell this for the s3 , and bls automotive used to race the orange s3 with the s2 front end, I spoke to bls several years ago and the hassle of fitting it was intensive to do Shocked .
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbber
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You're all crazy... esp you Al.
Theres always room for improvement/tweeking, personal preferances/tastes differ in everything. Laughing I like to see a car and play spot the changes, instead of, meeeh, another boring standard "whatever car", makes life interesting.

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Its a S3 cabriolet with a S2 front clip, powered by a V6 with twin turbo's with 18inch Bling wheels and painted in colour change orange metallic paint.
I'll have 2 please Laughing

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The series 3 with the big veloce bumper is off a 75 which has been shortened
That seems like more work than necessary, why not use a 33 veloce bumper and take off the bumper iron, cut it to either make it shorter or longer so that the bumper fixings fit in the engine bay, if using ser2 wings side mountings should fit no problem
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funkin Go-nut wrote:
Lee wrote:
Its another ex 155er turns up, hey FGN the 156 GTA not good enough Laughing



GTA's running fine at the moment thanks Very Happy

I just have an urge for a 33 again, plus it will stop me putting so manny miles on the 156 Cool


I bought my 33 for the same reason to stop putting so many miles on my 155, especially now i have to drive to work instead of cycle.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found another, not sure if the colour makes a difference, but it looks better. Maybe the wheel arch covers make a difference


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigAl wrote:
Found another, not sure if the colour makes a difference, but it looks better. Maybe the wheel arch covers make a difference



That's a "LESTER"frontbumper

s2 and s3 wings are interchangeable, only difference is the sidelightposition, i solved that problem with s3 sidetrim front to end( i don't know the english word for it Embarassed )
take a look at my green s2, that has s3 wings on it
on my purple s2 i welded the opening for the sidelight, and cut another one to be able to fit the s3 sidetrim (still don't know the english word Wink )

bumperbracket is not attached to the wing, so no problems here also
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