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Funkin Go-nut Alfa Arna
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: series 2 front end? |
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Are the wings on the series 2 and 3 the same?
How easy is it to put a series 2 front end on a series 3?
Assuming the parts are availabe is it just a bolt on job or are there differences in front subframe mountings etc?
Sorry if its been asked before... |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Funkin
They're different. The indicators on the side are on a different place (that's not too bad as you could fill and drill) - but the major problem is the very front where the light configuration is different. You'd have to shear some metal off and weld some new in. I don't think it's worth it.
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BLIMEY... Just buy the Series you prefer in the first place!
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Admin Site Admin
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 1223 Location: Stafford, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
I have a feeling that the wings are very similar (possible the cutout for the side repeaters is different). Main difference is the lights, bonnet, bumper and grill.
All the best
Keith _________________ I owe, I owe, its off to work we go.
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Funkin Go-nut Alfa Arna
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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I really want a series 2, but they seem a bit rarer than the series 3 which seem a bit more available, so I was thinkin of merging the two to get the best of both worlds (i.e. 16v engine, stiffer front rails and better rear wheel control..with the older classic look)
Guess its a bigger job than I thought...
Thanks for the info |
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Ben_nz Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't the series 3 radiator mounted further forward to make room for the power steering? This would probably give you some trouble trying to fit a series 2 front over it. _________________ "Now, all that is left to do ... is wait that something else brokens, to fix up again!" |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Ok ok.. this is madness..... *shouts* "EVERYBODY STOP!"
Someone just sell this luna-ahem-man a Series II
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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Lee Alfa Sprint
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 150 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Its another ex 155er turns up, hey FGN the 156 GTA not good enough _________________ `97 155 2.0 16v sport
`91 33 1.7 I.E |
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
i didn't believe it until i tested it...wings from series 2 and 3 can be exchanged, the main difference is the front bumper attachment...but this part is hidden behind the front bumper so it's easy to build a bracket of your own.
regards,
zp |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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I have always toyed with the idea of veloce bumpers on a series 3, but after seeing a pic of a series 3 with large bumpers, where the splitter almost touched the floor, it kind of stuck out. I too prefer the ser 2 look, but good ones are hard to come buy and lack a little power to the 16v, so yes a hybrid would be good. Here’s a couple of pics but it still has the ser 3 lights ect, not found any pics of a front end conversion.
I have seen a sud with veloce bumpers, that looked mean. _________________ x2 33 16v
pictures http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5203
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greencloverleaf pat Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 517 Location: crawley west sussex
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: 33 |
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that white one looks good alan. |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would look better with the ser 2 side skirts. The ser 3 bumper stops a lot higher and the line flows with the ser 3 side skirt. The ser 2 veloce bumpers sit much lower but married with the ser 2 side skirts they may compliment each other. _________________ x2 33 16v
pictures http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=5203 |
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Funkin Go-nut Alfa Arna
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lee wrote: |
Its another ex 155er turns up, hey FGN the 156 GTA not good enough |
GTA's running fine at the moment thanks
I just have an urge for a 33 again, plus it will stop me putting so manny miles on the 156 |
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Funkin Go-nut Alfa Arna
Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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The hybrid idea came from on of the cars that used to race in the Alfa championship...cant find any pics though..
I do like the white one in the pic looks |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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You're all crazy... esp you Al.
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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icky Alfasud
Joined: 20 Mar 2003 Posts: 70 Location: Lismore NSW Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Well I just worked out what the highest post count reward is.
It's not a 16 Valve..
It's not a P4...
Its a S3 cabriolet with a S2 front clip, powered by a V6 with twin turbo's with 18inch Bling wheels and painted in colour change orange metallic paint.
And Bobbber's gonna get there first. _________________ Specialization is For Insects
1988 33 1.5 S 8V |
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aforalfa Alfasud
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 77 Location: under someone elses alfa i expect :roll:
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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there's one with the same kit as that white one near me, looks good in the flesh too, speshly as it now wears some 155 speedlines 16inchers |
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Oggie Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 811 Location: Whitehill
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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The series 3 with the big veloce bumper is off a 75 which has been shortened, ah motorsport sell this for the s3 , and bls automotive used to race the orange s3 with the s2 front end, I spoke to bls several years ago and the hassle of fitting it was intensive to do . _________________ PHAT 33 |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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bobbber
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You're all crazy... esp you Al. |
Theres always room for improvement/tweeking, personal preferances/tastes differ in everything. I like to see a car and play spot the changes, instead of, meeeh, another boring standard "whatever car", makes life interesting.
icky
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Its a S3 cabriolet with a S2 front clip, powered by a V6 with twin turbo's with 18inch Bling wheels and painted in colour change orange metallic paint.
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I'll have 2 please
Oggie
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The series 3 with the big veloce bumper is off a 75 which has been shortened |
That seems like more work than necessary, why not use a 33 veloce bumper and take off the bumper iron, cut it to either make it shorter or longer so that the bumper fixings fit in the engine bay, if using ser2 wings side mountings should fit no problem _________________ x2 33 16v
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Lee Alfa Sprint
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 150 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Funkin Go-nut wrote: |
Lee wrote: |
Its another ex 155er turns up, hey FGN the 156 GTA not good enough |
GTA's running fine at the moment thanks
I just have an urge for a 33 again, plus it will stop me putting so manny miles on the 156 |
I bought my 33 for the same reason to stop putting so many miles on my 155, especially now i have to drive to work instead of cycle. _________________ `97 155 2.0 16v sport
`91 33 1.7 I.E |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Found another, not sure if the colour makes a difference, but it looks better. Maybe the wheel arch covers make a difference
_________________ x2 33 16v
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Graffiaturo Alfa Arna
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 15 Location: the middle of the netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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BigAl wrote: |
Found another, not sure if the colour makes a difference, but it looks better. Maybe the wheel arch covers make a difference
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That's a "LESTER"frontbumper
s2 and s3 wings are interchangeable, only difference is the sidelightposition, i solved that problem with s3 sidetrim front to end( i don't know the english word for it )
take a look at my green s2, that has s3 wings on it
on my purple s2 i welded the opening for the sidelight, and cut another one to be able to fit the s3 sidetrim (still don't know the english word )
bumperbracket is not attached to the wing, so no problems here also _________________ currently owned:
Alfasud Ti '82
Alfasud Ti QV '83
Arna 1.2 SL '86
Alfa 33 1.7 QV '87
Alfa 90 2.0carbs '87
Alfa 33 1.7 IE '92
Alfa 145 1.6 TS 16v '99 |
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