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BigAl P4
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Is there really 11 P4's taxed at the moment??
According to this list only the 33 ie (1.7?) is the only model that has more taxed. _________________ Presntly own
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just found page 2 and now I dont understand this list at all.
Some models seem to be duplicated....sort of _________________ Presntly own
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BigAl P4
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JeremyC Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've read elsewhere that the data on this site is notoriously variable in quality. _________________ '93 Black 33 1.7 16v |
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Some of the figures are accurate and some not. The different listings for similar models is correct. For example there are three listings for 16v (one is cat and the other is pre-cat and the other is the cloverleaf model) It is all down to the DVLA type listings. I am confused about which engine size the two models simply listed as 'Alfa 33' are and what the difference between the sportwagon and the sportwagon 2 are - they would both seem to be series 2. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone work out from that list how many series 2 1.7s (like mine ) are still on the road? _________________ Presntly own
Red Abarth 500c |
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greencloverleaf pat Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 517 Location: crawley west sussex
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:25 am Post subject: car |
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i think there are alot more about then they are saying, |
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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They say 45 of which 11 are taxed.
I have the registrations of 46 of these cars (of which 11 are taxed. We believe there are nearer to 70 left. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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It's interesting to look at other cars especially from the same era.
Alfa 75s, sprints and 155s are getting thin on the ground, but as an alternative they say there are 2362 taxed Pug GTIs, but when did you last see one of them?
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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08 Fiat Grande Punto Exotica Red
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33bits 16 Valve
Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 1067 Location: Clevedon. North Somerset
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Combining these figures with a set of figures i get from DVLA & Carweb i beleive we now an accurate list. Currently 326 33's in the country, 98 of which are taxed.
There are 76 16v 33's, 27 of which are taxed.
19 16v s/wagons, 6 are taxed.
68 1.7ie's, 25 are taxed.
Only 4 1.5ie's and 2 are taxed.
We have 50 1.7 series 2's, only 13 taxed.
35 1.5 series 2's, 10 are taxed. _________________ 155 sportpack
33 16v Sportwagon
33 Permanent 4
33 16v (for sale)
156 JTS sportwagon
contact me for any 33 parts. Alex, 07896-327708
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Except that I definitely know six 1.5 IEs registered with the DVLA
There are a few anomalies, as there are with the 'howmanyleft' website figures. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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It's been said before, but some Minaris are registered as 33's having taken the donor car's identity as well as running gear.
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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08 Fiat Grande Punto Exotica Red
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Posts: 911 Location: Bath Somerset
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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paulhide wrote: |
Except that I definitely know six 1.5 IEs registered with the DVLA
There are a few anomalies, as there are with the 'howmanyleft' website figures. |
i seen a champagne colour 1.5 ie outside Rusper Alfa a couple of weeks ago, cant rememer all of the plate but I think it ended with SPK.
And that red one is back on ebay again. _________________ Presntly own
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Hi Iain, are you sure it was a 1.5IE? I have 4 red 1 white and one grey; none ending in SPK.
As to Minaris I did a check with John hammond a couple of years ago, but only came up with one car still registered as a 33. I think some were re-registered as Minaris. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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Ian M Green Cloverleaf
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Cant be totally sure of the plate Paul but it was champagne or silver (grey).
No wait a minute it was BROWN!!!
Have you got the one on ebay? _________________ Presntly own
Red Abarth 500c |
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the thought that it might be brown had crossed my mind too
Yes, got the one on ebay.
Going back to your earlier post, yes people do like to keep P4s running- I know 9 of the taxed cars. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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greencloverleaf pat Gold Cloverleaf
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: car |
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i have seen the one outside rusper alfa i will get the reg for you paul next time im going by there and there is a p4 in horley in red and the same owner owns a red veloce as well which i will get the reg for both of those cars too. |
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paulhide P4
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers Pat. I'm begiining to get a pretty good list together, which is beginning to enable me to scrutinise Carweb and 'howmanyleft' figures. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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JeremyC Gold Cloverleaf
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Is the Rusper one for sale or staff car / in for work? _________________ '93 Black 33 1.7 16v |
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