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Ben_nz · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: Colour name or paint code

I'm getting a bonnet painted to replace my current one, and the painter has asked me to find what the colour of my black 33 is called. Something like Get-dirty-in-two-days Black, Scratch-prone Ebony, Hotissimo Stuffini or whatever name or number Alfa use to identify the particular colour.
Does anyone know how I can find this out?

On a related note, my car really didn't want to go to visit the painter.
First it wouldn't start, because it had deliberately drooled some coolant out of the reservoir and down the main ignition lead onto the coil, and allowed the rain to find its way onto the distributor cap terminals.
Then when I opened the hatch to put the bonnet in, the car drooled water out of the plastic wiper motor cover onto my custom parcel shelf with speakers. The water ran off that and onto the boot carpet.
The wipers did their intermittently intermittent trick for a while.
Then on the way I put the heater on to demist the windscreen. It soon started to smell funny, and I looked around and noticed the car had filled with a hazy smoke Exclamation

I switched that off pretty fast. Talk about the car having a mind of its own.. Shocked

James Granger · Alfa 33 Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 302

You should find a paint code under the bonnet.

Here are some codes - a nice link to have.

http://hem.passagen.se/veloce/paint3.htm

Ben_nz · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:41 am Post subject:

Thanks!

I think my car's colour is Nero, code # AR905.

That code was part of a long code number pressed into the body along the 'strut brace' engine bay divider, and it was also written on a plate mounted under the bonnet near the brake master cylinder. It's always part of a longer string, not as obvious as "Paint code: AR905", but once you know what you're looking for it's easy to find. Smile

Graham · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:54 am Post subject:

Ben,

Be Caredul assuming that the AR905 Code is your colour code as this number AR905 actually identifies the series/body style and naturally it is pressed into the areas you mention. I would be very surprised if that is your colour code. For example AR901 is the series number for suds. 905 for Series 2, 33's.
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Ben_nz · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:23 am Post subject:

I see. =|
Why do they have a paint code that's the same as the series of car which that paint colour is used on? Rolling Eyes

In that case, where should I look for the paint code? A quick look didn't turn up any other numbers or codes apart from the plate and the code stamped into the body.

Graham · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:06 am Post subject:

The Paint Code on my car which was illegible anyway was on a sticker underneath the carpet in the boot across the tail gate. I have never seen a paint code plate attached to any alfa and i have seen in excess of 400 of them so I am not convinced of this practice. In the end when my car got a whole new respray we just chose a nice white(you wouldnt believe that white has the most variations of any colour and is also the hardest colour to paint) We found something like 700 different whites but anyway a good panel beater will have an electstrometer which basically takes a high level sample of exisiting paintwork and can computer match it perfectly. Hope this helps
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johnboy · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:27 am Post subject:

Hi Ben

Have you got any good paint shops near you,if yes just take your car down there and they should be able to colour match it, thats what i would do if you cant fine the code.they will have it on micro film.then they will give you some switch cards to get the right shade.due to fading and stuff like that.
hope that helps, as thats what we do in the UK.

all the best john
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Ben_nz · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:37 am Post subject:

With my last car I was able to leave the petrol flap with the paint shop so they could match the colour. No such luck with the 33. But it would be easy to flake off a big piece of paint from the bonnet and give them that. Shocked

gritsop · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject:

Hi,

Under the bonnet of my Alfa there is a label stating the color code "Rosso 130". Seems that AR in the series3 cars decided to make the life of the repainter more easier Rolling Eyes

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johnboy · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject:

But it would be easy to flake off a big piece of paint from the bonnet and give them that. Shocked

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Hi again

just looked under the bonnet.
its nero 601,as my alfas black aswell. its on the drivers side if right hand drive.top corner of the bonnet on mine or as you wrote take the piece of paint from your bonnet Laughing

regards john
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WODA WE NEED? MORE POWER!!

Alfa gt jtdm blackline
1990 S2 16v veloce sleeping!
2002 ts gtv the wifes now
1997 seadoo gsx 800
1999 freestyle superjet

James Granger · Alfa 33 Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 302

James Granger · Alfa 33 Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 302

I'm not so sure that PPG delivered paint before 1991.

http://www.ppg.com/MaxMeyer/CarColourRange/files/dataccr/AlfaRomeo/1991.PDF

There is nothing earlier in their archives.

johnboy · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:45 am Post subject:

Yes, on the S3's it's on the RHS under the bonnet on highly visible a chrome sticker from PPG.[/quote]

Hi james

thats the same on mine,but mines S2

regards john
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1990 S2 16v veloce sleeping!
2002 ts gtv the wifes now
1997 seadoo gsx 800
1999 freestyle superjet