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evanbottcher
Alfasud


Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Posts: 53
Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: Gearshift linkage Reply with quote

Hi all,

My gearshift is very loose and sloppy, I'm told that changing the bushings in the linkage will make a huge improvement. Anyone know how difficult this job is? Tips?

Do I get access from below, do I need to undo the rear gearbox mounting. Anyone know where I can get spares in Melbourne, Australia?

cheers,
Evan.
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33 1.7 ie Turismo
Alfasud


Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 37
Location: bristol UK

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: Gearshift linkage Reply with quote

evanbottcher wrote:
Hi all,

My gearshift is very loose and sloppy, I'm told that changing the bushings in the linkage will make a huge improvement. Anyone know how difficult this job is? Tips?



i think i have the same problem so would be keen to know too. how expensive a job is this?

cheers

chris
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Ben_nz
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Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Posts: 575
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My gearshift is very loose and sloppy, I'm told that changing the bushings in the linkage will make a huge improvement. Anyone know how difficult this job is? Tips?
Do I get access from below, do I need to undo the rear gearbox mounting?

Wonder no more, friends! I have recently obtained permission from the local Alfa Romeo Owners Club committee to reproduce a recent newsletter article which covers just these issues:

http://www.axys.co.nz/ben/alfa33/GEARS2.JPG (259kb)

I haven't tried out any of these suggestions (Huh? JB Weld? Spherical bearings? You mean I have to drop the gearbox?), but I'd certainly like to be able to engage first gear first time every time. I've also noticed it's harder to get in or out of gears while under braking - if I briefly let the brakes off I can move the gearlever then reapply the brakes again. And when I'm cruising through the local reserve and come to a cattlestop (like lots of train rails recessed into the road to stop cows walking through open gates), I use all the bumping and vibration as I drive over it to help shake the car into 1st gear! Wink
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LDA
Alfa 33


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 276
Location: France

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats brilliant, thanks for posting that.
my gear change doesnt seem quite as bad as yours but the stick does have to move a very long way to get from gear to gear. i hope this sorts it out.

its a knightmare switching between my nissan gtir and my perm 4. the nissan has a very small tight box and i've added a quick shift kit to it.
the alfa's gear shift must be 5 times bigger than the nissan's.

well there is another job for me to do this week.

L.
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ZeNiTh-PbArM
Alfa 33


Joined: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 388
Location: Paris, France

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: re : linkage Reply with quote

hi,

on suds and early 33 there is a plastic washer in the linkage that fails when it's too old. it's very easy to replace (10 minutes)
series 2 33s have another linkage fitted, overhaul is still possible without dismantling everything
series 3 33s are different, and renewal of the rubber bush requires lots of work (dismantling of exhaust, shafts, gearbox mounts).

regards,
zp

ps : very nice tech paper you submitted. if i were living in NZ i'd be glad to be member of the club that publishes such an interesting bulletin...
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robert
Alfa Arna


Joined: 08 Aug 2003
Posts: 14
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not an expert, but replaced the rubber bush between the gear linkage and gearbox selector rod on a series 3 33 a couple of weeks ago. This took about half an hour and has improved things quite a bit. Didn't need to drop the gearbox or remove anything. The replacement bush cost NZ$5 from our local Alfa dealer.
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ZeNiTh-PbArM
Alfa 33


Joined: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 388
Location: Paris, France

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: re : series 3 Reply with quote

hi,

don't know if we had the same system fitted ; mine was :

bushing n°11 wont come out because the lack of body clearance prevents withdrawal of the rod n°1. spent 10 minutes figuring out how to fix the car (my purpose was the gearbox seal replacement) then decided to lower the gearbox and remove the mount to be able to remove pin n°5.
did you remove bolt n°12 to get the rod out?

regards,
zp
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LDA
Alfa 33


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 276
Location: France

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey all,

i'm going to have a go at repairing my gearshit linkage over the christmas holidays. i'm told that the rubber part in the linkage has probably failed and lead to my sloppy gear change.
is it possible to replace it with something more solid than rubber?
i assume that the rubber part is in there to reduce vibration in the stick? this doesnt bother me if a more solid part would prevent the linkage from becoming as lose again over time.

is there anything else i can do to help tighten up the shifting while i have it all apart?

thanks

L.
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