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Bellamachinna
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: 155 Q4 Alloys Reply with quote

Hi all...

Seems that i`ll finally will be buying the 15` Speedline wheels, that camed on the 155 Q4...

However, i have some questions...
Anyone knows their offset??? And the PCD, is the same ???

I known that the 33 PCD is 4x98 and the offset is 39mm, but know nothing about the 155 data...

All the best
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bellamachinna

Which wheels have you got? I've seem some q4s with wheels with a fake split rim design with lots of holes round the outside, the same as late 33 16v but bigger, or I've seem another fake split rim design with a five spoke pattern. Either way, I think the offset is 41mm for both (I've got the ones with holes and they fit OK, my friend had the second type on his Alfasud and they were ok too - the only thing you need to do is enlarge the centre bore by 0.5mm otherwise they are a bit tight.

Hope that helps
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PS I thought you had problems in Portugal with fitting non-standard parts?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi...

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PS I thought you had problems in Portugal with fitting non-standard parts?


Yes, we do have problems... But, fortunatly, the Alfa importer, is legalizing cars, and homologating then for road use.
My papers state that i use 185/60R14 tyres at the front, and 175/65R14 at the back( Shocked )
So, after a word with, FIAT Portugal, they sent me to another engennering companny. Those people wrote a letter, stating that there was no problem to car and general public safety, so DGV can make new documents stating new tyre dimensions... I managed to get approval for 195/50R15 and 205/50R15.

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Which wheels have you got? I've seem some q4s with wheels with a fake split rim design with lots of holes round the outside, the same as late 33 16v but bigger


Exactly these ones. 15`Wheels, with similar design to 33Q4 wheels
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, those are the ones I've got (also fitted to the 155v6) - they should fit no problem! They look good too!

Good luck!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you want me to ask your question in my other home, the 155 forum Laughing Laughing , I would look on my 155, but its not a q4 Sad

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes please!!!!!

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, my Q4 isnt on original wheels, its on later 5spoke speedlines,
but the PCD is 4x98 for definate, is STD alfa/fiat size ( except for the 5 stud cars)
offset on wheels i have on q4 is 40.

dont know if thats any help
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You haven't left the fold have you Mark?? What happened to the P4??
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rich,
no have had a Q4 since 2000,
had 2 P4`s but one has died now so only one is left...

have been collecting cars recently tho, bought 2 ti suds and a GTV6
my mrs just loves it... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mark

the one that died,was that the one that went pop at spa? plus will you being next year? i cant wait for spa 07 Cool let the 33 beat some more newer alfas Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi john mate Smile

No the black one has been ok since that day
Rolling Eyes
I had another one which gave up its engine gearbox and quite a bit else to sort the one which let me down at Spa
And yes am still planning on going back this year AND getting more than 1 lap this time ....


sorry bellamachina have hijacked his thread a bit Embarassed Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any ideas on how to refurbish these wheels? I had a look on the 155 forum and found a bit of info but not as much as I'd like and as I'm not a member I can't ask the question. Also, any idea what wheel bolts to use to fit onto a 33? I assumed that the 155v6 ones would be best - the 33 ones are a little short.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive put your question on, heres the link...

http://www.alfa155.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84633#84633

Sorry for the delay in asking Embarassed

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markgp4 wrote:
Hi Rich,
no have had a Q4 since 2000,


Are you on alfa155.org mark, theres a 155 q4 forum somewhere too for you guys.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark,

There's a rumour I might be at Spa next year - I'll 'ave ya you slowcoach! (and that goes for you too Tolley!)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee, any chance you could ask about refurbishing on the 155 forum for me?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich B wrote:
Lee, any chance you could ask about refurbishing on the 155 forum for me?

Thanks


Yeah ok will do, tell you what, pm me your exact question and I`ll post it for you. Wink

And Bellamachinna, did you click on the link I posted, might be of use to you, someones put up a link that could help.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup...

Thanks for that... I was concernd about that coment that "djstanley" posted that the rear tyres where tight up against one of the suspension arms.

This got me thinking. I`m still waiting for them to arrive, but i will be fitting 195/50 tyres, instead of the 205/50 tyres that will be supplied with the alloys.
I hope that skinnier tyres, will solve this clearence issue...

Also i believe that he must have fitted the alloys to a series 1/2. On the series 3, the suspension arms have diferent pick-up points (all on the front of the wheels), and on the series 1/2, the lower arm pick up point is on the front, but the upper arm, is rear mounted...
I hope this was the problem...

Thanks again Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bellamachinna

You shouldn't have any problems with clearance on the rear - I tried to fit my wheels which are currently fitted with 205/50/15 tyres and they went on ok (I'll be changing them for 195/50/15 tyres though). There's some more information if you you do a search for "155v6 alloys" - the info comes up on page 2 of the search, basically its the info we've already discussed - wheels fit fine, no spacers required and centre bore being 0.5mm smaller on the 155 wheels. Hope that helps.

Thanks for your help Lee - I managed to find some stuff on the alfaowner forum in the 155 section and looked at parts on my E-per parts disc. In case anyone is interested, the plastic studs are listed and seem to be about £2.50 for 5 so hopefully when refurbishing you can just remove the old ones and replace them with new ones (don't know if these studs are definitely available though, I'll have to check).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to be of help Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich B wrote:
Yeah, those are the ones I've got (also fitted to the 155v6) - they should fit no problem! They look good too!


Think the 155V6 has 5 stud wheels.

Main difference between the 33 hubs and the Tipo based hubs is the size of the centre locating ring. 1~2mm different.

All the best

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope - all 155s have 4 studs including the v6 and my wheels definitely came off one. The 156 has 5 studs.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup the v6's comes in 4 lug. If I'm not mistaken, 0.5 mm has to be taken off the centre bore to fit. Goodluck
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi bellamachinna
I had tsw evo's which were from a 155 narrow body, i had to fit 5mm spacers on my ser 3 1992 16v 33, the tyres were 205 50 15, i fitted 195 50 15 on the front but the rears rubbed when going over bumps and people in the back. Mind you my car is lowered. Hope that helps.

The wheels are for sale if anyone is interested, want deep dish with chrome/polished alloy and no spacers.
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