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areces
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 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: Alfa P4 gearbox mount |
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Hello everybody.
Thanks to this forum and tvatavuk answers, I have repaired the 4X4 of my car (was the tooth mesh sensor), but I saw that the gearbox mount is broken, I have a new one, but its very difficult to change.
My question is, if it is necessary to remove the gearbox to change it, or it is possible without remove it.
And as the "ferguson" mount is no more avaliable, ¿Anyone of you have made something which work as this mount?
Thank you, and excuse my bad english, I'm spanish. |
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tvatavuk
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it is possible to change it without removing gearbox out of car, but you will need to lower gearbox and at same time put somethin under so it goes up
Put pipe of same diameter as outer metal ring of gearbox mount, and hammer to kick it out.
I don't remember if it was slightly conical but it did go out on one side more easily then other, I don't know which one was it 
No we still don't have replacement part for "ferguson " mount.
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stedee
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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i had an idea about using 2 square rubber mounts on the existing bracket by drill out where they fit and replacing with rubber blocks with threads on both sides - i have seen these blocks on a car but i am not sure which one - i will do some research into it some day but as a quick fix i have heard that you can repair the perished rubber by squeezing windscreen sealant into the cracks - hope this helps
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areces
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your answers.
How to lower the gearbox?
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Scott Sander
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| How to lower the gearbox? |
I assume you don't intend to completely split the motor/gearbox assembly.
To lower the gearbox, while still attached to the motor you need to
* disconnect the exhaust from the headers
* remove the stabiliser bar between the chassis rail and the RHS of engine
* loosen the bolts for the front centre engine mount in the centre of the front cross member
* undo the two bolts at the rear of the gearbox and remove the short bar that goes thorough the rear mount
* support the engine/gearbox assembly, hydraulic trolley jack and a block of wood will work. The block of wood should go all the way to the sides of the gearbox.
* loosen the centre engine mount, you may need to remove the bolt
* lower very slowly the hydraulic trolley jack, keeping in mind the other cables , etc connected to the engine, make sure they don’t stretch
Be careful, as the engine is now supported fully by the trolley jack
If your power steering rack is leaking, now is a good time to do that job as well.
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tvatavuk
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Just small notice P4 gearbox back mount bar is glued to rubber so you cannot remove it separately, well if you brake mount rubber you could 
You also might need to unscrew prop shaft shield/gearbox lever mount from el. coupling, and both visco mounts.
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Scott Sander
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Tino,
Thanks, I forgot there was extra weight hanging on the back of a 4x4 gearbox. 
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tvatavuk
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Np Scott,
this way it's better 1st is for 16valver
1st+2nd is for 4x4 
p.s. I started writing post how to do it, after I submited it. Your post appeared in front of mine. since it was way better description I deleted few duplicate lines from mine
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