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Chris Manson
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: What other motors would fit easily into my 33 (maybe jap 94+ Reply with quote

Hi have just purchased a beautiful alfa romeo 33 1.7QV 1988 but have blown the engine already am having problems finding a new engine and am worried i wont be able to afford to service it in future i love the look of the car and hope to put a Jap engine in hopfully 1995+ dose anyone know of any engins that would go in without too many problems . I know the car was built on a nissan platform would a nissan engine work or a subaru please if anyone knows somone who has done this kind of job or can help with some ideas i would really appreciate it , I live in New Zealand so Jap engines are quite cheap THanks Chris Smile
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stedee
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
1st off what have you done to the engine, i thought you could get the engine repaired especially if its the topend, did mine myself
secondly they arent that bad to service diy oilchange and filter plus always keep an eye on the cambelts and pulleys

i have heard that someone has put in a impreza engine but i have a feeling this aint gonna be an easy job due to the impreza engine being longer etc plus all the grief of the gearbox, electrics, props and diffs etc etc
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Bellamachinna
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know the car was built on a nissan platform would a nissan engine work or a subaru please


You are wrong. The ARNA was based in a Nissan platform. Not the 33...
I also heard that a guy did the conversion with a Subaru WRX engine, but never saw any proof of the car existing, for real.

With the amount of trouble and money that you are ready to waste, you would be better off if you bought a Nissan or a Subaru...
The engine of a Alfa, is part of its charm and soul...
You will end up with a hibrid... Good looks but with a awful engine in it...

All the best
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Arna was built on a Nissan Cherry platform, seriously modded on the front end to take the alfasud running gear. Also sold as a 'Cherry europe' . Apart from the sud motor -crap.

The 33 has a low bonnet line thanks to the flat 4, cant see any inline engine woking. An older flat 4 Subaru engine may be a proposition say from series 2, L- series or pickup, but these will be even older, from the 80s.

Keep it alfa or buy a CRX Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Chris,
The jap motors don't seem to have the wonderful reasonance of a screaming boxer.

Keep an eye on Trademe.co.nz
They have this a motor and gearbox in Dunedin at the moment and others have been on recently.
www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Parts-Other-makes/Engines-drive-trains/auction-96988718.htm

Alfa's are like Potato Chip's, you just can't seem to stop at one.
You could try and pick up a parts car, most are cheap and come with plenty of bits.
If you get stuck or need advice, this forum has a wealth of knowledge to help get the beast operable again.

Cheers
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Chris Manson
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: hey thanks all really helpfull advice Reply with quote

I know I would be messing with the heart and soul of the car but need to keep an open mind . Have always loved the look of the 33 but am worried i am not going to be able to maintain an old engine It has been greay to get such prompt advice from you all and will keep you informed of my decisions , keep it coming Cheers Chris
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Chris Manson
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Ps have damaged bottom end and cam so need new engine Reply with quote

am also looking for cheap alfa engine what ones can i ?
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Chris Manson
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Please ,what other alfa engines would fit Reply with quote

Are there any more alfa engines prefer more modern that would fit pls let me know year and full name Thanks Chris
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john 33_16v
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest engine that will fit will be from a 145 boxer (not twinspark). You could have 1.2 (in some markets?) to 1700 8v or 16v. Made up to about 1996.

Last 33 engines went to 1994 - 1.5, 1.7 and 1.7 16v

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Thanks alot John will look for a 145 will it go in easy mate Reply with quote

just another little question your giving me some much needed hope with your answers so thanks alot mate b. Chris
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Ben_nz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris, if you're still reading the forum, what part of NZ are you in?
You won't have any trouble finding a 33 engine, but you'll pay twice as much for a 1.7 motor unless you get a deal on a whole car. The racers want the 1.7 engines more than 1.5s you see. Wink
Unfortunately the 1.5 cars had different diameter carburettors and different gearbox ratios than the 1.7s.
There's no other engine that belongs in a 33 apart from an Alfa boxer. They're pretty simple motors and pretty reliable really - it's little things going wrong with the rest of my car that keep me busy!

Find yourself an independent specialist to work on your car (easy in Auckland), join the Alfa club and hang around this forum, and you'll find it's still pretty easy to own a 33.
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