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[Synthie77]

Dear Friends of the 33,

as my beautifull 1,7 16V SW is finally running now, I made a testdrive this friday, and noticed that the clutch comes in really late.
What I mean is, that the car starts driving only when my foot is nearly off the pedal.
Maybe this qeustion has been asked before - but there is so many entrys in this forum - it's nearly impossible to find.

Please somebody help me. This car has to be driven on the road. (I have'nt seen a 33 on the road in ages here in germany.)
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[Admin]

Hi

I would suspect the clutch is almost worn out.

However might be worth bleeding the clutch first just in case the fluid has got old and contaminated, causing odd problems when it gets hot (and fluid is a lot cheaper and easier to change than a clutch!).

All the bes

Keith
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[BigAl]

Have you done an engine change? If so did you keep the original pin between the clutch slave cylinder and the clutch fork. Just thinking that if the pin is too long it wont release the clutch fully, just a thought.
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[Ben_nz]

[Admin]

Hi

Unless a long way different in length I would expect the hydraulics to make up for any change there.

All the best

Keith
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[Synthie77]

Thanks for the information.
Could you please tell me how to bleed the clutch. I know this question probably sounds silly, but with my 2 left hands I do need to ask.
Indeed this car has been standing for a long time.
Now that I have the engine overhauled and running (1004 Euro), there is still work to be done on the brakes, the clutch and the beneath body - needs a bit of welding.

I also just want to say thanks for this really great page.
It's a pitty that I hav'nt found anything like this in germany as I have great trouble understaning a lot of the technical words. I think the Alfa 33 over here is nearly extinct.
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Red 94 1.7 16V SW P4

[BigAl]

I have experienced both situations with the pin, one being to short and the clutch fork was rattling around, so the clutch didn’t disengage properly and one being too long, the clutch fork wasn’t released properly and you had to push it towards the clutch cylinder for it to become free, so the clutch never disengaged properly. I also found that to bleed it properly if the pin was too short I had to manually push the clutch fork against the pin to expel the fluid.
Just a thought though

Ben_nz, probably, crunchy gears, I think there might be a recess stopping the clutch cylinder from taking up the slack so the seals don’t leak if pushed out too far. I have also had a clutch cylinder circlip fail on me and the whole thing popped out can’t remember if the internals of the unit popped out though.

To bleed make sure that the brake fluid reservoir is kept topped up, as the pipe that feeds the clutch is at the top. You can either get someone to depress the clutch pedal and at the same time loosen off the 7mm nut on the clutch master cylinder very slowly. Make sure you either have a pipe from the clutch master cylinder nipple going to a catch tank or a large rag to catch the expelling fluid. Just before all the pressure falls from the expelling fluid tighten up the nipple/nut pump the pedal and repeat, again making sure there is enough fluid in the reservoir.
The other way is to push on the clutch fork which will push the pin into the clutch master cylinder, negating the use of another person inside pressing the clutch pedal.
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[paulhide]

(As long as your peg is the right length ) If the clutch needs bleeding the pedal will need to be pressed right down to the floor before you can change gear and will engage drive almost immediately on lifting and if things get bad you will not be able to change at all. You will get the opposite if there is not much of a clutch plate left or if there isn't much of a thrust bearing (or your peg is too long )
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[Synthie77]