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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: 16v bogging down when cold Reply with quote

Hey guys, I used to park my car facing downhill but now face uphill.
The car starts, idles and fast idles ok. when i go to pull away it bogs down and i have to keep the revs up quite high.
Is this normal? I used to face downhill so it might have always done this but I never noticed.
Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,
Fuel draining from the lines back to the tank?
Can you check the fuel filter before and during cranking for volume?

If it's the cold affecting it... Then move.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

icky, lol
id love to move somewhere hot.
How would i go about
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Can you check the fuel filter before and during cranking for volume?

I have heard that these fuel filters are a PITA.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 16v bogging down when cold Reply with quote

BigAl wrote:
Is this normal?


How steep is the hill? Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey John
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How steep is the hill?

not very, there are no gradient markings as its a side street. when my handbrake had just been adjusted 1 click was enough to hold the car.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,
I cheated earlier, I had wacked in one of the el cheapo clear plastic filters in the engine bay... Can never have enough clean fuel...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has a solid PITA model for injection Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,
With the fuel injection, does the fuel tank and lines get pressurised?

Could be perished rubber seals on the fuel cap????

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icky,
do you mean the escape/intake of air when removing the fuel filler cap? i cant remember.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked the throttle body balance Al? Mine used to bog down when cold really bad until I adjusted it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lee16v wrote:
Have you checked the throttle body balance Al? Mine used to bog down when cold really bad until I adjusted it.

hey lee, yup i did that not to long ago with a synchrometer

I have new rotor arm and dizzy cap, i will fit them tomorrow morning and see if that helps.

Dirty injector, wouldn't it happen all the time though?

Another symptom is that when starting it idles really low and then very slowly starts to rise to proper idle speed after about 30 secs, idle valve? I was thinking of cleaning it with wd40. Dont think the idle valve has anyhting to do with bogging down when cold under load?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The system needs high fuel pressure for the car to start, so not going to be a case of the fuel draining away.

That said, my P4 does a similar thing sometimes. Starts and idles fine, accepts throttle no problem, but regularly stalls once I have reversed out of the drive and go to change to first.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as bobbber would say, air leak, air leak, air leak? Do you get start then stall sometimes?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Only time it does it to me is having reversed out of the drive. Start it and leave it idling for a bit before reversing and it is fine.

Probably does need the throttle bodies balancing though.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey keith,
I have already balanced the throttle bodies not to long ago. Changing the dizzy cap and rotor arm made no difference, i have to feather the throttle.
I have now bug erd up my idle valve lol, but it still idles and i still have to feather the throttle,,, go figure.
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