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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: Radiator |
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AGH.... what is the trick for removing the radiator?
Every time I do it I seem to remove half the car to get it out... surely someone knows a better way?! _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Somehow or other I have managed to seperate the fan from the radiator and move it somehow out of the way sideways for the radiator to come out, but it took a hell of a lot of mucking about and suddenly came out without me understanding exactly how. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Last time I undid the alternator and power steering pump and removed the bonnet.
Other times I think I've taken off the front bumper (or usually in the past, it's been off already!). What a nightmare! _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Bobbber- definitely take off the bonnet, and leave the fan on the rad if enough clearance- 1 min job with an asistant- not heavy even the wife didn't moan that much!
If the bumper is off the bonnet can stay on and it lifts off the front dead easy.
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Be thankful that you're not taking the radiator out of a 155. Apparently it's a lot worse! I guess the more modern a car the more difficult the maintenance. Rad removal on a series two 33 is dead simple. _________________ Owner's Club 33 Registrar. Now from P4 & S2 1.7 QV
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:19 am Post subject: |
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paulhide wrote: |
I guess the more modern a car the more difficult the maintenance. |
Apparantly Audi TTs are an absolute MOFO to do anything on- another good reason not to drive a 'cock car'.
John _________________ If it aint broke, fiddle with it until it is!
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JeremyC Gold Cloverleaf
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 Location: Petersfield, Hampshire
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Headlamp bulb on the last two Golfs, 15 minute dealer job.
So much for carrying spare bulbs. _________________ '93 Black 33 1.7 16v |
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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hi, on the series 3 the easiest way is :
- remove the fan (two upper bolts+one connector)
- remove the front grille (one screw)
- slacken radiator upper bolt and remove hoses and clamps
- close the bonnet (yes) and get radiator out through the opening of the grille
quite quick, efficient, and can be achieved alone.
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zp |
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lee16v 16 Valve
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1429 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Spot on ZP... that's what I was going to say Bob and do it this way all the time. |
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've really struggled with the bonnet on myself .
Probably worth putting strips of tape along the bonnet edge then to avoid scraping the paint off.
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lee16v 16 Valve
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1429 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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You are right John. It's easier with the bonnet off as the rad does need a bit of wiggling past the bonnet edge (good tip on the tape on the bonnet edge ) but without help getting the bonnet off when working on your own this has been my prefered method. |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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ZeNiTh-PbArM wrote: |
hi, on the series 3 the easiest way is :
- remove the fan (two upper bolts+one connector)
- remove the front grille (one screw)
- slacken radiator upper bolt and remove hoses and clamps
- close the bonnet (yes) and get radiator out through the opening of the grille
quite quick, efficient, and can be achieved alone.
regards,
zp |
Thanks Zenith... although I can't even seem to get the fan out without removing 'stuff'
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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BigAl P4
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2990 Location: U.K Surrey
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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thats how i did mine last time zenith, when i put it back in i couldnt get the rad fan to sit in the recess, so it sits outside it _________________ x2 33 16v
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have an aftermarket radiator... perhaps it's slightly wider than the norm then _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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bobbber wrote: |
I have an aftermarket radiator... perhaps it's slightly wider than the norm then |
Mine is a valeo (orig equipment?) and i really think i'd have had to bend it to get it out the grille hole.
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think I can get mine out and it's valeo too _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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nope the OEM (valeo) unit will get straight out
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zp |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Well there you go... I can't argue with photographic evidence!
Thanks everyone.
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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bobbber wrote: |
Well there you go... I can't argue with photographic evidence!
Thanks everyone.
Bob |
Yeah but he's left off the cambelt covers
BUT and a big BUT- It's an 8 valver!!!
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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As I'm totally knackered, I'm going to try having more than 4 hours sleep tonight - thus not trying the removal.
I'll let you know what happens tomorrow.
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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ZeNiTh-PbArM Alfa 33
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 388 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Hi, yes it's a 8v but it's the same on the 16v model, only you'll have to fiddle a bit more for removing the fan if you have power steering and air conditioner installed.
And on the pics cam covers that can be seen on the foreground are not to be fitted on the car - the engine inside already has its own.
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zp |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Ok folks... Yes it does come out of the front grille.
I won't tell you why it didn't before as it would make me look a dick. Suffice to say I did something stoopid.
Thanks all...
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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john 33_16v 16 Valve
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: herts, uk
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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bobbber wrote: |
Ok folks... Yes it does come out of the front grille.
I won't tell you why it didn't before as it would make me look a dick. Suffice to say I did something stoopid.
Thanks all...
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It wasn't the little hose to the expansion tank holding it back was it?
I'm still adamant (stand and deliver!) that mine wouldn't come out the front hole- maybe it's just me, perhaps that's why i jacked in mechanics
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paulhide P4
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 1607 Location: Oh Beautiful Billingham
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bobbber P4
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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john 33_16v wrote: |
It wasn't the little hose to the expansion tank holding it back was it? |
I couldn't possibly comment _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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