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gez110
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: alfa 33 p4 resto Reply with quote

Hi,

I will be restoring a 91 p4 over the coming months (years Smile ). Hopefully I've secured a good solid shell to use in place of my current rusty one.

However as a back up can any one point me to a supplier of replacement panels i.e. all four jacking points, sills, front panel, rear panel and a pair of front wings.

Cheers

Gez
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BigAl
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try this
http://www.nicedeals.co.uk/index.php?cPath=1_17_28&osCsid=8d490d07f2a91706350fe29191bfbfc6
has been posted by other members so i am not taking credit for the link.

also
http://www.autoteile-blinker.de/(172_183).html
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gez110
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigAl wrote:
try this
http://www.nicedeals.co.uk/index.php?cPath=1_17_28&osCsid=8d490d07f2a91706350fe29191bfbfc6
has been posted by other members so i am not taking credit for the link.

also
http://www.autoteile-blinker.de/(172_183).html


Nice one, a good start. Thanks for the links. Do you know if relacement jacking points have ever been available?
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BigAl
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NP,
Last time i went to get some for my red ser 3, I was told NLA, so got new ones from just suds for a sud, they are taller but who cares Smile
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gez110
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigAl wrote:
NP,
Last time i went to get some for my red ser 3, I was told NLA, so got new ones from just suds for a sud, they are taller but who cares Smile


Excellant, so justsuds are still around then? I saw Phil Snelling's sud project on ebay the other week. Looked good but was top money
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Synthie77
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations to you. What a challenge !
Im doing exactly the same as you are on a 94 P4.
Bodyshell without rust (only dents on the roof from the goats in the barn were I found it), Engine look okay (apparently it runs well) and the Recarus are in a near new condition.

Now the biggest problems:
Gearbox is broken - apparently the car stoped suddenly after having changed from 3rd to 2nd gear, so this is a major problem to be fixed - or to get a used gearbox from the scrap yard.

Fuel tank is very rusty. It's been standing without petrol in it for a few years, so you can imagine what it looks like. It's got no holes so I'm thinking to give it the POR15 treatment. BUT: How the hell do I get the fuel sender unit out of the tank ???? It's not srewed, it seems to be welded ?!
If anyone has some ideas to share, please do so. I'd be glad for every suggestion to get the unit out of the tank.

Greetings from Saxony Anhalt, Germany
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paulhide
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, the fuel sender unit should be held in by a number of 10 or 8 mm bolts in a circle around it.
I know someone here in England who has a gearbox for sale. Postage might be expensive though.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can wait until June 4th 5th and can get to Spa, maybe someone could take one with them?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for you reply's.

Paul:
That's what I thought to before I took of the tank, but then I saw the spotwelds. Now I'm not sure how to remove the unit.
I'll see if I can put the picture somewhere on here.
(HELP - can't get picture into here - how's it work?)



BigAl: Spa sounds good, but it's future for me without my P4 on the road. This year's big expense is the Techno Classica in Essen. Gotta check the Alfa Romeo stand.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have to upload a picture to a website like 'flickr' or 'photobucket' and put the link here and use the img button at either end of the link.
(photobucket already does this for you somewhere, so you can just paste and copy the link with the img tags at either end)

How many Alfa 33s are there in Germany Question Exclamation
I have friends in Graftschaft Gelsdorf near Bonn who we visit sometimes. I think it might be a rarer sight to see classics on the road in Germany than here in England Question [/url]
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gritsop
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Please have a look at www.alfa-restoration.co.uk

There is complete documentation regarding fuel tank restoration using POR15 products.

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Synthie77
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the picture. Hope this works.

http://s1136.photobucket.com/albums/n493/Synthie77/Alfa%2033/,

Gritsop: Thanks for all the helpful informations on the net. Checked your resto guide for the fuel tank, but the P4 Tank looks totaly different, and the sender unit seems not to be removable.

Paul: Not sure how many 33's there are in Germany. I've tried to find out allready but without success. Maybe I'll find out something at the Techno Classica.
As I visit my family in England once a year, I must say thet there are indeed a lot more historical cars on the road in England. I think in the last 10 years I've seen maybe 2 or 3 33's on the road (without counting mine) here in Germany.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://s1136.photobucket.com/albums/n493/Synthie77/Alfa%2033

It appears that the sender unit is of the screw in type. There are 3 notches that probably release the sender unit - there is no way that the sender unit can't be removed.

I would soak the sender unit in WD40 for a couple of minutes and then carefully try to unscrew the plastic ring tapping it with something that wont break the notches eg. rubber hammer.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After some time away I had some more time now to look towards my restauration project.
Got my POR 15 Fuel Tank restauration kit last week and want to start of a.s.a.p.
Now I have some worry about how to pre-clean the inside of the tank because of the baffle plate. Its in the centre of the tank and doesnt leave any room at all to clean up the room behind it.
Anyone with similar experience ?

Also, has anyone ever swapped a complete aircon against the regular one?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your questions solved at

www.alfa-restoration.co.uk

Smile
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