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bobbber · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:57 am Post subject: Before the server crashed!!!!

Hi,

Don't know if anyone remembers this, but the server had a virus a while back, and half the old posts are gone. Thanks to Keith for getting us all back on the board so quick though!

I remember an old topic regarding noisy hydraulic tappets, which can be due to an 'airlock' in the part that the oil is supposed to 'pump up' in the tappet.

Someone (I think Gary, Darlington) suggested a method of expelling this airlock from the tappet - but I can't remember what it was!!!!

Anyone have any ideas?

Bob
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ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject:

hi,

immerse the tappets in a cooking pot full of engine oil.
cook slowly and watch air bubbles escape from the tappets.
when no more bubbles pop out let cool.
when cold get the tappets out of the oil and install them in engine.
do not reuse the oil for frying potatoes.
and never tell your girlfriend how you used her cooking gear and kitchen!

best regards,
zp

john 33_16v · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject:

Hi,

Every mechanic needs a kitchen!

The kitchen sink is great for cleaning out the breather pipes with Fairy.

Freezer great for testing coolant strength.

Lasagne dishes are great for catching oil and water drips.

Her best salon spec hairdryer is great for drying out condensation in headlight pre-MOT.

Extra virgin olive oil great on saws etc etc

That said I do all the cooking too!!!!

John
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ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject:

hey pal you forget about this :

regards,
zp

gritsop · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:

forgot to mention the dish washer for cleaning the rims... it does miracles Wink

Regards
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johnboy · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject:

The Bath is also great for degreasing larger engine parts like the inlet manifold,i will to see if ive still got the photo of it in there Wink

regards to all john
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Guest · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:30 am Post subject:

no problem fellas :

regards,
zp

bobbber · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject:

Thanks Guys Laughing

I MEANT with the valves and tappets IN the car!!!!

Bob
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ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:

oh, that simple?

remove spark plugs, disconnect TDC sensor, crank the engine 10s a few times, let the starter/wires/battery cool between successive crankings, reinstall spark plugs and replug TDC connector.

regards,
zp

bobbber · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject:

Zp.... that actually DOES sound pretty simple!

Does it work?

Bob
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Ken McCarthy · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:29 am Post subject:

This thread should have been in jokes & funnies. I havn't laughed so much in ages. Are we all really like this? There is even an ad on TV here at the moment where a bloke puts a rocker cover and a spanner through the dishwasher. His (actor) wife didn't think it was funny though.

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bobbber · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:16 am Post subject:

Ken,

Yes, I think we are all slightly demented anyway! Think about it, only a masochist would REALLY own a 33/sud/sprint!!!!

Laughing

Bob
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Ben_nz · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:20 am Post subject:

bobbber · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:37 am Post subject:

Dunno.... but that's also what I was told last time tho!
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ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject:

hi,

i suppose that without pressure in the cylinders the efforts on the tappets are reduced?
i would prefer the "italian tune-up" would also help solve the problem.

bobbber · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject:

Gonna try it tomorrow Very Happy

However, anyone think it's best with a hot or cold engine?

Bob
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Bellamachinna · Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:

COLD ENGINE.... Shocked

You should never remove the spark plugs, with hot engine.

All the best
P.Camilo
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bobbber · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject:

Another question! How do I stop the coil blowing up when I do this?

Thanks!

Bob
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ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject:

hi,

that's the reason why you should unplug the TDC sensor.

regards,
zp

Ben_nz · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject:

Or if you have a carby 33, I presume unplugging the primary of the ignition coil will achieve the same thing.

johnboy · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject:

ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject:

hi,

yes a dead TDC sensor will prevent the engine from firing. troubleshooting requires a scope for chacking signal while cranking but with a voltmeter on AC volts position you should see 2 or 3 volts between TDC sensor pins while cranking.
if not your sensor is dead.

regards,
zp

bobbber · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:34 am Post subject:

All,

I tried that thing with the spark plugs removed.

IT WORKS! I AM SOOOOOOOO HAPPY!

Two years them damn tappets have been clacking away!!!! Not anymore!

Bob
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ZeNiTh-PbArM · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject:

Hi,

keep on 33ing!

regards,
zp