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Rich B Alfa 33

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: dodgy wipers |
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Hello all
When I just want to wash the screen i.e. you pull the stalk towards you, the wipers do not always work. Sometimes only the washers squirt and the wipers don't come on, other times it works fine. All the other wiper settings seem to work fine.
Any suggestions?
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Bellamachinna Alfa 33

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 352 Location: Lisbon-Portugal
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Is it a series 1/2, or is it a series 3???????
I ask this, because, the electrical system is diferent
All the best
P.Camilo _________________ All'interno della mia macchina, vi sedete, tenete sopra e CHIUDETE IN SU... |
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Ben_nz Gold Cloverleaf

Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 575 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Pull the stalk towards you to operate the squirters, and move it down as normal to make sure the wipers go!  |
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Rich B Alfa 33

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry Bellamachinna - its a series 3 car (1994).
Thanks for that Ben - my point is that normally when you pull the stalk towards you, it should squirt and then automatically wipe about 4 or five times and then stop, on my car only the squirters work when I do this.
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Bellamachinna Alfa 33

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 352 Location: Lisbon-Portugal
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Hi Rich
Try, changing the bottom left relay on the fuse box. That relay, controls the intermitence of the wipers.
Be aware, that i`m not sure that its this one, or the one sitting next to it.(on his right side). Be also aware, that i`m used to a LHD car, and on RHD cars, the locations can be different.
On series 1/2 cars its located on the bulkhead, but on series 3 it was placed inside the car.
Hope this helps
P.Camilo _________________ All'interno della mia macchina, vi sedete, tenete sopra e CHIUDETE IN SU... |
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Rich B Alfa 33

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Bellamachinna
I'll try looking at the relay in the fuse box as you suggest (the one next to the steering column?) I've just got a service manual for the car which I hope will be able to confirm the relay I need to change.
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lee16v 16 Valve

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1429 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Rich,
It may be the contact inside the stalk essembly. I tried mine the other day and the wipers were not working with the squirters but with a few pulls (ok, about 20) they sparked into life. I'm going to dismantle the stalk and clean the contact properly.........this could be your problem too as if your wipers work normally on the other settings ie on intermittent/1/2 speeds then i'd say your relay is ok. |
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Rich B Alfa 33

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah that sounds logical Lee, I'll perhaps try to dismantle the stalk and clean up the contacts as you suggest.
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: |
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The relay for the wipers is the bottom row, second from the left (X in the diagram):
Hope that helps!
bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Also note that while the relay is dying - you should be able to hear it clattering away like Granny's teeth in a jar!!!!
Mine is doing this at the moment..... There appears to be two versions of this relay available. One standard one (£24) and one which is used for "radio connection" (£10) - wonder what that means??? That's what ePer says anyhow.
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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Rich B Alfa 33

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 386 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I've just fiddled about with the stalk, ie pulled it alot (stop laughing at the back!) and it seems to have recovered to almost normality. Maybe it was still asleep after my cars 7 month hibernation!
Thanks for all your advice |
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bobbber P4
Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 2162 Location: The Greatest Town on Earth - Swadlincote, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Switches are like variable resistors in as much as the contacts get a film of oxidation on them, which decays performance.
We've all had (I think!) the radio or stereo or whatever with the crackling volume control - and ONE way to make it crackle less is to turn the control rapidly in both directions, which slides the contact over the resistor wire - which to some degree removes some of the oxydation.
So Rich - keep wiggling that stalk! Or perhaps take the stalk out and clean it with some glass/sand paper and a bit of WD40 (TM).
Bob _________________ Fiat Bravo 165 Sport |
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