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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: problem to remove water pump Reply with quote

Hello,
I try to change the water pump, but it's completely blocked...
Did you have the same problem ... and found solution !

Thanks and sorry for my poor english

Guy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common problem. You have to be very careful and full of patience because if you go hard on pump and surroundings you might damage block. Use of puller if welcomed.
Few of us decided to drill into pump and brake it in parts but there is still problem of unblocking heavely oxidized parts of it from block.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With patience you'll get there. Use a good lump of wood and use a hammer against the wood hitting it alot at different angles around the pump till it will eventually loosen and eventually you'll be able to walk it out. Takes alot of patience though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi... Very Happy
This is a common problem...Not only in Alfas 33 but in all sort of cars.
Big hammer, and lots of patience...(ALSO, lots of care to not damage engine block).
I changed 2 water pumps, and after disasembling the parts around the pump i put lots of WD40, in the gasket area (Were pump joins block).
Only in the day after, i will do any work...
Even so it takes some efort to remove the damn thing out.
Take care
P.Camilo
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Water pump removal Reply with quote

Hi
As said above this is a common problem because a) the water pump is an interference fit in the block, and b) there is generally some corrosion. As said above, release agent Penetrene or WD40, care and patience. It has to come out about 1 cm before it is free. If you wish to reuse the water pump take care not to break it because the wall thickness between the flange and the locating diameter is very thin. I broke one the other day by trying to hurry things with a wedge when I had a gap of about 3mm. Bad idea.
Good luck.
John
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See string "Water pump removal" on Feb 17 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tired, but could not locate this topic using search, as it does not seem to go back far enough.
It is on page 8 of Maintenance and repairs list, last post date is Mar 19 2004.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: link to post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everybody
Thanks for all your advices and description of your solutions.
At least, i got it.. practically distroyed because the hits to rotate it...I use a lot of WD40 and in the same time i hit for rotation, an another belt was used to pull it away.. crazy job...

I also have advice from the french site http://alfaimola.free.fr/

thx
guy
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