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Bellamachinna
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Fitting Alloys from the 145/6 Reply with quote

Hi all...

I was wondering, if the alloys, from the 145/6 Junior would fit in my 33 16v...


That`s almost impossible to get decent tyres in 185/60 R14 (with sporty characteristics), and in 15`, the choice is bigger...
Do anyone knows, if they will fit, or do i need anything else...???
Will i be able to use the same studs???

Any help will be apprecieted

Regards
P:Camilo
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I have Yokahama A539 tyres on the P4 in 185/60 14 sizes. Work OK.

Think you can use 145/6 alloys, but you will need spacers to get the offset correct and also enlarge the size of the centre hole in the wheel slightly. (only by 1mm or so).

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a wonderful blue series 3 33 usually parked in the street next to mine wearing those exact 145/6 alloys.
I drool everytime I walk by it!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admin wrote:

I have Yokahama A539 tyres on the P4 in 185/60 14 sizes.


Those tyres, are no longer for sale in Portugal...
As well as my current tyres...Bridgestone Potenza RE720.
Everywere i look for them, they tell me that the 185/60R14 size is no longer in production, and when the stock is over, i`ll be forced to change to other tyre/brand... Sad
All i´m left with, are those "ENERGY" tyres, that are not up to the task of putting up with the type of cornering that i`m used to!!! Shocked

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Think you can use 145/6 alloys, but you will need spacers to get the offset correct and also enlarge the size of the centre hole in the wheel slightly. (only by 1mm or so).


I am a complete ignorant, in technical details about the wheels. Can you be more specific?
What is "offset"??? Embarassed
If i need spacers, how "big" should they be?? (big=Thickness)
Also, i presume that if i need spacers, i will need bigger wheel studs... Rolling Eyes

Thanks in advance
P.Camilo
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is offset Smile
http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/wheel-offset.htm
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101

Can you find GoodYear F1?

Big= few mm 3-4 were on Lucas Alfa (author of AR33 disc list)
Usually you do need longer bolts but it all depends on how thick spacer is and how are bolts you have right now.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Offset is the distance between the mid point of the wheel (width wise) and the mounting face of the wheel.

Table of offsets here:-

http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/offsets.htm

Seems most 145/6 wheels would only need a fairly small spacer, but using them from a Cloverleaf / TI would need fairly substantial spacers.

All the best

Keith
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Bellamachinna
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi...Very Happy

Thanks, for the replies...Now, i understand what is "offset"...
However, i always presumed that 145/6 wheels were "caried over" from the 33.
But, according to the list, the Alfa 145/146 1.4/1.6/1.7 16V have a 43 mm, but the 33, all have 39 mm...

The alloys, that i was considering, are presumably. from the 50mm type Confused
Is there any marking in the alloys, were i can confirm this, or i have to measure one??

Thanks for your time
P.Camilo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bellamachinna wrote:
Those tyres, are no longer for sale in Portugal...
As well as my current tyres...Bridgestone Potenza RE720.
Everywere i look for them, they tell me that the 185/60R14 size is no longer in production, and when the stock is over, i`ll be forced to change to other tyre/brand... Sad
....
Thanks in advance
P.Camilo


Camillo,
You can also use 185/65R14 tyres. The only differents is that when you think you´re driving 100 km/h your driving 104 km/h.

Or you can order tyres on-line... Th Dutch shop had 185/60R14. Other shops also!
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/banden-partner.pl?ID=google
Hope this will help
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bellamachinna wrote:
Is there any marking in the alloys, were i can confirm this, or i have to measure one??


Don't think they are marked. Think you will have to measure them.

We bought some A539s about a month ago in the UK.

All the best

Keith
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Bellamachinna
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Very Happy

Thanks again for your replies... Very Happy

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You can also use 185/65R14 tyres.


Unfortunatly, i can`t. The IPO (Portuguese MOT), doesn´t allow changes in tyres sizes...
To change tyre sizes, you have to get a letter, from your`s car main representative, stating that the car characteristics are not affected and i get new car papers stating the new approved tyre measure...
I can get this letter, but only in 195/50 R15 measure, not in 185/65R14.

Strange thing, is that the guys at the IPO center, are very strict in "whats on paper issues", but turn blind eyes on bushes, shocks (a shock, only fails an IPO, if it is leaking),suspension geometry, etc...
But if your car papers say one thing, the car must comply with this, or else it fails the IPO... Sad

Thanks for your time
P.Camilo
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there. The 145/6 rims have a centre bore slightly smaller (about 0.5 or one mm) and can do with a bit of grinding off. Never force it in. You definately need spacers esp for the rear. It touches the trailing arm. I think I got away with 6mm spacers and still seats in the centre bore. Can't remember exactly but you'll get a very clear picture once you try to fit them in.

Good luck!
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