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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

The cam pulleys are not both left and both right, their mixed left and right on both sides
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lee16v · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject:

What Al said......and the grille is missing Wink

bobbber · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject:

Yes Lee... you are a genius! Wink

You didn't notice the alternator and radiator are missing too then!?! Laughing

Al - I don't understand what you mean mate,

Bob
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

on the cam pulleys, i thought that the left sides should both say L and the right side should both say R. In the pic there is a mixture of L & R on both sides
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bobbber · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject:

Al... I see. You have a point mate, but I don't think it matters.

The problem is how I bought this car with a broken cambelt, and how that relates to the photos.

Bob
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Ben_nz · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:49 am Post subject:

If you didn't just replace the cambelt, what terrible internal engine carnage could have made the previous owner assume the cambelt had broken? Wink

Belt skipped and threw timing out?
Dropped valve? Twisted Evil

Thrown a rod? Twisted Evil

Why oh why couldn't you have kept away from 33s, bobbber? Wink

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tvatavuk · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:25 am Post subject:

Bob what are you moaning about you got both belts which are not
broken Smile

On 2nd picture is that chiped tooth on intake cam wheel around 1 o clock area?

Here is image of factory assembled 16v Smile

for comparison to all those who haven't seen it in person.

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lee16v · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:57 am Post subject:

So Bob, what's the problem with this motor? Have you tried to start it?

If you find out that the problem is to do with the valves i've still got a few left from the old motor that you can have.

john 33_16v · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:

Hi,

Will it turn over to do a compression check?

Could be a burnt valve, but if just one valve, the car will just run crap with no power, head gasket????

John
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bobbber · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject:

The battery was dead when I got it.... so that's charging up for a compression and running check.

I haven't thought about this before, but will it run ok with the alternator disconnected?

What about the cooling system having no coolant in it?!?!?! For a short while I'm guessing it will be ok!

Funny - years of messing about with cars, and I don't know the answers to these questions....

Also - after about a year break from playing about with them - it's amazing how you can feel like you are wearing boxing gloves when you go back to doing it!!!! Laughing

Bob
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lee16v · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject:

Yeah you can run it with no alternator but it's only going to run as long as the battery lasts so make sure anything you don't need is switched off ie interior fan/ lights etc. I brought a MX3 back from Bath for a friend and the alternator went wrong........travelled for quite a while before every thing started to go Kittens up.

And you'll get away with a short run with no coolant as i did the exact thing when putting my recon engine in Embarassed

I guess it's not recommended but a minute to check the running wont do any harm but make sure you do remember..........just your luck to get it running ok and then forget there's no wet stuff in it!

bobbber · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject:

Thanks Lee... this is what I expected! Very Happy

I'll get the bugger running tomorrow and see how it sounds after checking the cam vernier alignments.

Bob
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john 33_16v · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject:

Bobbber,

For the compression check you can take out all the plugs and just turn the motor on the starter. It will turn over dead easy cos of no compression on the 3 non checked cylinders.

It will be a bit of a cowson to screw the compression tester in, just like doing the plugs themselves of course.

John
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paulhide · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject:

You may as well put a bit of water in there to make water pump happy?
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bobbber · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject:

Paul,

There is no radiator!!! There is no water pump belt! Laughing

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paulhide · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:02 am Post subject:

Errr... yes quite right... doh! not thinking Embarassed

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Rich B · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:22 am Post subject:

Post subject: What is wrong with these photos???

well, where do I start - whilst the subject matter is good, your composition needs work. I don't feel you've really captured the atmosphere as well as you could have done.

Maybe a faster shutter speed would have created clearer pictures and how about a filter for some more drama and feeling?

bobbber · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:53 am Post subject:

lee16v · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:18 am Post subject:

Is it running yet? Is it? Is it?

(Not impatient at all me Laughing

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Rich B · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject:

Smartass

Tee hee, sorry mate, couldn't resist it!!!!!!!!!

bobbber · Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject:

Lee,

I'm impatient too! BUT... I have to balance the fine family/car restoration line Laughing

Wednesday evenings is my next time available on this special rota... don't worry, I'll keep you informed. Cool

Bob
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bobbber · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject:

Aux components coming out tonight.... ready for engine removal...

Bob Cool

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lee16v · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

Good luck mate with the removal. Never again for me though!!! Laughing

bobbber · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: