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burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

how easy is it to drop the engine for some1 who is mechanically minded and has changed engines b4 how long u think it will take and is there ne tips that gd old haynes dont tell me as im plannin on changing all the engine and gerbox mounts and timing belts need doing and lots of other little things and the engine could do with a bit of a clean so i thought it would b easier just to drop it out wot u peeps think ???
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Admin · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:17 pm Post subject:

Hi

It isn't that difficult, just takes time.

The only real problem is getting the car high enough with normal tools to slide the engine out from under the front of the car.

All the best

Keith

burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

cheers m8 ive got an engine winch to lift the car so i should b able to get it high enough
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Admin · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:24 pm Post subject:

Hi

I used the engine hoist to lower the engine, but then needed to get the car higher to slide the engine out under the front. I landed up buying a rather better jack. Not sure what there is on the front of the car with the engine out that I would like to lift the car by. Only really thing that is possible is the front cross member but to get the engine out you have to remove that

All the best

Keith

burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

i think wot im gonna do is get another engine and do the work to that then just swop em over
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Chris Notsis · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:49 am Post subject: lifting the body.

Keith - in particular - an excellent hooking point is the slotted bolt hole of the top engine mount. The bolt itself can be inserted for the lifting cable/chain. If the panel that is welded to the bulkhead is solid, then it will take the weight of the body (since this is a fulcrum where both engine and body torque meet).

Ultimately, the safest and least stressful lifting method (for the car!) is to use a high-lift jack and taller stands (if no other lifting equipment is available).
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Admin · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: lifting the body.

Guest · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject:

burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

no its just the amount ive got planned for the engine me car would have to b off the road for ages while i get it done and at least if i get anoth i can strip it all down and take me time with it
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Mixsynth · Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:54 pm Post subject:

When doing my 8V-16V engine swap all we used were two trolley jacks, two axle stands and a small bottle jack. The axle stands hold the front of the car high off the ground. Lower the engine attached to the gearbox with the two trolley jacks supporting the heads. If they don't reach high enough, lower the gearbox slightly first and support with the bottle jack on lowest setting. Then once the bellhousing bolts are removed, Slide the engine off the GB with trolleys under the heads equalising the pressure, then lower jacks as far as possible and slide engine out!

I think that's how it worked for us anyway... Rolling Eyes

There's probably an easier way.
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burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

i kno this sounds sad but my love for vauxhall novas has got the better of me so ive decided im not gonna bother with a new engine just gonna leave the one that its got in it and hope it lasts me as i need every penny i can get to put towards my two latest projects
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Mixsynth · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:31 am Post subject:

burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

i dunno why i just love them especially mine it seems to have a personality that alfa hasnt so im gonna use me alfa every day and have the nova as a project car
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Guest · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:00 am Post subject:

Forgive me but I've never understood the whole Nova thing. There are so many driving about round here and they just don't inspire me. Maybe I'm just missing something...

Give me Cuore Sportivo any day. Sod 80's digital dashes and turbocharged GM lumps of pig iron Razz

Burgo - get your 33 running properly and tune it, you'll see what I'm talking about, I hope!

burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

na sorry guest i spose its cos i kno every nut and bolt of a nova and i would if my alfa had some appeal to it yeah fair enough the engine sounds nice and ive heard they handle well but there not the best lookin cars in the world and the thing is i dont keep novas standrd at the mo im building a nova limo (never bin done) and a super smooth one (never bin done) at least im not doin the usual gte/gsi bumpers and skirts and colour code it which every1 seems to do im at least bein different
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Maximilian · Alfasud Joined: 04 Apr 2003 Posts: 39 Location: London, UK

Wow. You're a dick
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burgo90 · Alfa Sprint Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 118

y cos alfas dont turn me on oh sorry
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Guest · Guest

More decent Novas than shitty alfa sheds

Guest · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:16 am Post subject:

Do u know Burgo????? well dont call him a dick then no need u nancy

Gary UK · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:22 pm Post subject:

Quote from "Maximilian" - 'Wow. You're a dick'

I just spat my coffee out laughing, nice one Max, u sure ain't mad Wink

, just funny and truthful (well to some extent Dicks have a use).

Quote from "Burgo" - 'but there not the best lookin cars in the world'

Well maybe not but compared to a Nova!!, Burgo I don't think partially sighted people should be driving.

wrigleys · Guest

from the looks of ya pic mate does your mum know your using the computer?? Laughing

Guest · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:14 am Post subject:

thats a shity reply ^^

Jas · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:01 pm Post subject: arrghh

Wow guest your dick too!. do you know that fella?

Guest · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:29 pm Post subject:

at the end of the day, no matter how hard u look at things, alfa's are just yet another piss poor attempt by the italians at engineering.

italian shite is just not reliable, good luck with the nova!!

Mixsynth · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:50 pm Post subject:

Uh-oh... I think some others from the Nova forum have illegally occupied the thread...

Burgo - no I'm not having a go at you. Just those loons who think kiddy insults get them any respekt with people here. I admire the desire to create something new. But for me starting with a Nova seems just a bit too easy. But that's just me, every man to his own - your Nova will probably be running longer than my 33 - good luck with the projects and keep us informed how they get on!

Here's a question though - instead of ripping a Calibra engine out and sticking it in a shoebox - erm I mean Nova (only joking!) - why not just buy the Calibra? They're gorgeous cars and will pull better. Both in terms of acceleration and in terms of women.
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