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33bits · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: Gear selector bush kit needed.

These kits used to be available but i havnt seen any around for about a year. Does anyone have any spare bushes for the 33 16v linkage? I've changed the bits a few times with half decent second hand ones but the result is never perfect.
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Oggie · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I could do with the s2 version, only rattles in 2nd,3rd and 4th when Im over 3500rpm, 5th gear ok tho Rolling Eyes

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33bits · Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: s2 bushes

If I find any i'll let you know.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

check this post out.
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-33-sud-and-sprint/174710-easy-gearbox-gearshift-mods.html
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JeremyC · Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject:

Mangoletsi, have or say they can get, all of the bits.
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JeremyC · Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject:

Alfaowner won't let you view pictures unless you join, how small minded!
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bobbber · Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject:

Yeah,... they're a wunch of bankers.
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33bits · Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject:

Yeah how bloody stupid, but thanks to Alan for the link. I've got a mate in the parts dept at Mangoletsi on the bush case!
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

I would be interested in seeing how much play is removed after that mod, sure would beat stirring porridge
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33bits · Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject:

Watch this space.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

I will lol

I did replace the bush on my first ser 2 and i was forever going from 1st to forth, you really had to push the gear lever over, didnt make any difference to the porridge effect.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

How will the gear stick centre itself without the aid of the rubber bush?
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

Alex, I am still watching this space, you got round to it yet?
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33bits · Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject:

keep watching this space Exclamation

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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

I got a spare broken gearstick from Paul, as he was going to throw it away, let the race commence Smile

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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

Does anyone know if the gearstick and gearstick bush have the same part number and are the same between a ser 2 and ser 3?
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paulhide · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject:

Yes should be the same. Series One 33s had a different version.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

Thanks Paul, i had that thought when looking at getting a rose joint mock up to fit before fitting to my car.
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey

what about using these
http://www.igus.co.uk/wpck/default.aspx?Pagename=igubal_Gelenklager_EGLM_mm&CL=GB-en

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JeremyC · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject:

I lost my clip again last week (actually my friends may well tell you that I've permanently 'lost my clip' but that's another matter) so was lucky enough to spend some time staring at the linkage.

Where the end of the rod goes into the socket (on the end of the selector coming out of the box) I'm not sure you need any movement, I think the only reason for the stupid pin in bush in socket held on with a poxy little clip arrangement is to avoid the gearchange feeling too notchy and to allow for those drivers who shove the gearstick where they think it should go rather than feeling where it wants to go.

I've got a spare linkage from Alex and I'm thinking that I may grind off the narrow bit at the end of the pin and drill and tap for a bolt coming upwards instead, you could then bolt up the whole assembly much firmer (or threadlock the bolt in slightly loose, allowing some movement). It would also be interesting to replace the rubber bush with something machined from nylon.

Al, where would you put that joint?
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lee16v · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject:

Drilling and tapping a bolt is the way forward Jeremy. After losing three 'poxy' clips myself i did this mod about three years ago and haven't had any trouble since. I didn't grind the bottom of though, i just packed it off with a couple of suitable sized washers. I didn't have any trouble drilling mine but some have said that it's hardened steel (maybe they varied off the production line?)

JeremyC · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject:

Lee, are you saying you just drilled straight into the end of the pin below (as installed) the clip slot and taper? Isn't this rather narrow, I'd have thought you could only use an M3 whereas the major portion of the pin (the bit that sits in the bush) is surely good for an M5 or even M6 drill and tap.

I may well get a machine shop to drill and tap to get a bit more accuracy on the centering and straightness fronts!

I can feel a diagram coming on later.

Never having had my bush out ( Shocked

) what's it like, is it just a rubber tube or does it have a floor to it (with a hole for the pin of course).
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lee16v · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject:

Get your bush out.......it's quite an experience!

Yep, drilled straight in the end. I did put an M5 bolt in also which was longish and went up through the meaty part of the rod so it's shouldn't have any weakness issues. Did it on the car aswell... just made sure my pilot hole was straight and took my time. The bush from memory has a platform at the top to stop it falling down through.

Admin · Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:33 am Post subject:

Hi

Did it to a 33 years ago (a 1992 carbed car). Drilled across the linkage and put a circlip through. It was a complete pig to drill and after a few hours and a barely noticeable mark from the drill I landed up giving up and taking it to our local Alfa specialist and it took them ages as well.

All the best

Keith
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BigAl · P4 Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 2995 Location: U.K Surrey